Monday, 20 September 2021

CLC Wagons

These wagon had a very colourfully life on the QR Network stretching over forty plus year. At first as Baggage Cars, express freight louvered wagons and maintenance wagons.

Reading John Armstrong book “Iron and Steel Wagons of the Queensland Railways steam era” the contract for the wagons was called in 1948 and the wagons entered service in 1955/56 with running numbers 30801 to 30841, 41 wagons in all. Commonwealth Engineering made the louvered body and Evan Deakin made the underframe. The body shape was similar to the “M” series air-conditioned Lander cars. The wagon had “Fox” bogies similar to the wooden passenger cars at 18 foot centres. The wagons came into the spotlight due to the number of derailments. Plan P 50 (Drawing 5504) shows there Red Diamond status for passenger trains were revoked in 1958.

24/4/57 - 408.5m Julia Creek – Gilliat.  Derailment of CLC 30806 on 42 Up (hauled by C17 785), possibly due to a buckle.

14/3/58  - 44m60c Main Line.  Derailment of CLC 30823 on 17 Down, due to cant of the track and a sudden application of brakes due to a detonator exploding - gang at work lifting track.

21/3/58 - 743.5m Guthalungra – Gumlu.   Derailment of three CLC wagons on 247 Down, due to swaying caused by varying uneven cants of track. Springs are being modified on these wagons.

18/4/58 - 487m NCL.  Derailment of two CLC wagons on 247D, due to a hole in the road and the springing of the CLC wagons not of a design to give good riding characteristics

21/12/58 - 645m39c Yalboroo – Bloomsbury. Derailment of CLC 30838 (loaded with general goods and fruit) on 247D, due to the  modified springing not being sufficient to counter the conditions existing (curve and soft spots).

22/12/58 - 743m60c Guthalungra – Gumlu.  Derailment of CLC 30824 (loaded with fruit and general goods) on 247D, due to a hole under the sleepers, irregularities in track, speed, loading of the wagon and the spring arrangement of the wagon.

CLC 30802 As built – Fox Bogies, Red Diamond, Stem buffers.

Reading the Working Time Table for that period there are three types of trains shown, Passenger Trains, Goods Trains and Through Goods. Train 247D is shown as an Express fruit and goods train.

The rear section of the Time Table shows the following. Train 247D will convey ordinary goods in addition to fruit and other perishables may be made up to a gross load of 520 tons and must be worked with a diesel electric locomotive. The train must be composed of bogie wagons, ("C," "CLF," "CJF " "CM " '•CMIS" and "HJ") which may be fully loaded to marked carrying capacity. As far as possible box wagons ("CJF," "CMIS," &c.) must form the make-up of these trains but when necessary wagons of other types may be attached to make up the train to full load or length on the approval of the General Manager or District Officer. Care must be taken to distribute the load evenly and to place light packages on top off heavier packages on the floor of the wagons. 247D will not shunt or stop at Intermediate stations.

Reading on a bit more in the Gympie and Bundaberg section the following is stated, No. 247D will be worked with a diesel electric locomotive and may be made up to a gross load of 520 tons. (See instructions on page 126 regarding composition of this train, as above.) The train will not stop for passengers, shunt nor perform roadside work for stations south of Mackay except to attach a CMB of butter at Theebine when required for Townsville, which will be marshalled next to the engine. Preference must be given to 247D Down over all trains, except Mail Trains. Bundaberg to Rockhampton section indicated the train could convey 650 tons between Rockhampton and Townsville.

Most of the wagons listed on the train are ordinary goods wagon rated at 35 MPH wagons, not 50 MPH wagons (Red Circle) required for Express Freight Trains a few years later. The train must be worked with a diesel electric locomotive, thus no water stops and changing engines at depot stations. Express train in the 1960/70’s had a through load of 650 tons for a single loco, this train has a limit of 520 tons.

The back pages of the Working Time Table gives sectional running for trains, that is time allocated for a train to run between two stations. Trains under 75% of the full load are given less time between the two stations. With express type running on a faster time table, goods loading in Brisbane on Monday morning was available for delivery in Townsville Wednesday morning.   

Over the next couple of years the bogie centres were altered to 21 feet (2 wagons) and 22 feet 3 inches on the rest. The wagons were fitted with QR 2 cast steel bogies and in 1961 the wagon were given “Red Circle” status and were allowed to run on express freight trains at 50 MPH.  

CLC 30811 QR 2 Bodies

Cooroy Jan 1961. QR 2 Bogie extended. No speed marking

The class was not over popular with loaders, the area between the doors the loading area was around 8½ feet, little less in the door opening and 7 feet 7 inches between the door shields on the end of the wagon. The height at the sides was 6 feet 5 inches and in the centre was 8 feet 4 inches. The inside sliding doors allowed water to enter the loading area during wet weather. The underframe was 32 feet long, with a 32 feet 6 inches long body that was 9 feet wide. Average Tare of the wagon was 13 ton 3 cwt and they could carry 22 ton 17 cwt. Gross 36 tons. At first the wagons were painted Red Oxide/Tuscan with black bogies. 

In the mid 1960’s a number of the class were allocated to Brown’s Transport, these wagons were repainted and looked quite smart. Grey roof, underframe and bogies, yellow body lined with a red strip top and bottom and a red lighting flash with black lines the full length of the body. Words “Brisbane Co-ordinated Toowoomba” in black was along the flash. The Turntable Hobby shop produced a decal for this colourful wagon, I understand Wuiske Models now has the decal. Caintode Flats website site also shows a decal for this wagon on his web page. In the instructions from the Turntable decals, the running numbers of the wagons are different to that in John Armstrong book. John shows 14 wagons, 30801, 30806, 30807, 30812, 30813, 30816, 30817, 30824, 30826, 30827, 30832, 30834, 30837, 30841. In Brisbane the wagons were loaded on the Milton end of the Roma Street Parcels shed. Ipswich Workshop Museum has one on display showing running number 30826.  

CLC 30801  White Wall Types.

Ipswich workshops.

In the early 1970’s the co-ordinated wagons returned to general traffic. Others were painter yellow all over with black bogies, 30802 was one such wagon with a red QR logo on the L/H end door.

Other were painted freight grey in the same manner as other goods wagons from 1969 on wards. With the removal for wooden wagons from traffic in the late 1980’s, many replaced wooden material wagons attached to camp wagon, breakdown trains etc. The final fling for the class was on the Cairns to Forsayth “Great Train Journey” carrying general freight from Cairns for the Atherton Tablelands as roadside wagons.

Around 1978, some of the class had the bodies removed and the underframes were use to make single slot 20’ container wagons as the PCE class. The first few being 30805, 30831, 30834

A number of CMIS refrigerator (ice) wagons made up other members in the PCE class.  One PCET wagon converted from a CMIS wagon was modified with a recessed floor to transport two smaller transforms within the loading gauge for Main Line Electrification Project, the wagon could still carry one 20’ container when not required for transformers. This wagon carried PT classification.     

CLC 30840 Roma Station Plumber’s Tool Wagon

Cowan Shelton No 7 Supply Wagon. 

Panels on the door suggest the wagon was a Co-ordinated wagon. 

Workshops Dump Wagon.

                      The class had standard brake equipment similar to most wooden wagons

CLC 30826 Ipswich Workshop Museum


A number of manufactures over the years have produced a model of the wagon.

This wagon was a Fox Model produced about 25 plus years ago. This wagon has now been placed in the Westgate SWR Museum. 

Currently, Caintode Flats produces a one piece body kit that requires very little effort to make a very nice model with great detail.

On the layout at present I have three Caintode Flats wagons, two painted red and one in Toowoomba Co-ordinated colours.    

The decals used were purchased from the Turntable some 25 years ago. They were somewhat past there use by date. The red lining was applied in various small sections, on the prototype the names on the doors are on panel sheets attached to the wagon. I forgot to paint these when painting the wagon. The red flash did not match photos I had of the wagon, it was far to wide for the Canitode Flats wagon. On side one the letters were cut from the sheet and the flash decal ripped when being slid into position. Red paint was used to patch the gaps. Plus I was using new decal setting solutions and I keep on mixing up the two, that didn’t help the situation any. When building the kit I added all hand rails that just happen to be where the decal were to go, bugger, more issues. Side two in an effort to place the flash in the correct position the names were cut from the sheet and some sections of the flashed was reduced, the flash was cut into three sections. One section I over lapped the flash, this showed up and is still visible after a weathering.

After I finished the wagon I saw photos of a wagon completed by a modeller in Toowoomba using Caintode Flats decals, the end result was much better than my effort. Well done Gary.   

(Toowoomba Model Train Club, Train Talk Newsletter August 2021 Issue # 362). 

The wagon will certainly bring colour to your layout and will be a talking point. Nice to have something that’s a little different. 
Having said that, for the prototype modeller the wagon has very limited application.


Trust my mistakes can assist you to make a better model.


IRON and STEEL Wagons of the Queensland Railways Steam Era by John Armstrong.

QR Working Time Tables

QR Derailment Reports

QR General Appendix’s

QR Plans

Australian Model Railway Association Queensland Library

Toowoomba Model Railway Club “Train Talk” Newsletter.  

Arthur H. 



Sunday, 22 August 2021

New Bridge for Six Mile Creek

When I started building the layout I always wanted a trestle bridge. Provision was make for the bridge with the establishment of the creek section across one end. This end of the layout was to be a country scene to reflect distance on the layout. An “S” bend was incorporated to take away continuous straight track. 

A few years back the rock face and waterfall was redone.


At the time, plans I had showed trestle pier arrangements for bridges up to 30’ high. Measuring the distance between the rail and the creek bed, my bridge was going to higher than that. With no plans or photos for a bridge of the correct high, I used the 30’ arrangements until such time something else came up. Over time with various visitors viewing the layout, some with more bridge knowledge than me, some refinements were made. In the back of my mind I had a feeling the bridge was not right. 

A few year back in researching bridge plans for a mate, I was sent plans for a bridge that was the correct height. Bugger, my thoughts had come back to be true, my bridge was incorrect. For a time I accepted my error, as time went by it started to bug me. The original bridge was built using 5 mm dowel from Bunnings, a local hardware store. My next visit to the store I found the only dowel sizes available were 4 mm and 6 mm. I only needed to replace three or the seven piers of the bridge, I need all to be the same size. The project when back to being on hold.

In January I attended a Division one NMRA meeting, during the Show & Tell a member showed his timber bridge and explained how it was made. He used 5 mm dowel for the piers. Later I chatted with the member and enquired about his source of the 5 mm dowel. He indicated it was purchased from the craft section of a cheap shop. The next day Kerrie was sent out shopping with a sample to the cheap shops. After searching three shops, none was available. The penny dropped to check out eBay, a number of choices were available. A pack of 100 pieces 200mm long was ordered. 

A couple of weeks later the package arrived and replacement piers were made using a styrene jig. Nut, washers and steel strapping made from styrene were added. The completed piers were airbrushed with Mirotone black etch primer. Strapping and nut were picked out with Vallejo brown.


The creek bed and the old piers were removed. The morning I was go to install the new piers the penny dropped I still had an error in the bridge. Two guarders came together on top of a pier without a corbel. Modifications were made and the piers were installed. The opportunity was taken to redo the creek bed. The base was painted with brown and green artist water colours. Rocks were added in various locations and Woodlands Scenic “Realistic Water” was used for the water. Woodlands Scenic “Water Effects” was used to highlight water flowing along the creek bed.


The opportunity was taken to redo some of the scenery in the area, over time I think it’s good to refresh the layout.   

Trust you find the information helpful.

Arthur H.   


Thursday, 5 August 2021

Blog Index. Maternal and Child Welfare Car No. 7


Blog Index.

Not being a Blogger expert and still learning with every post, I’m losing track of my posts being titled in month of posting. Thus a list of what has been posted.  





Index of Posts (Maternal and Child Welfare Car No. 7)


UR Wagon


OFO Bitumen Tank Wagons.


Train 101


Steam Breakdown Crane


Bundaberg Model Train & Hobby Expo

HSA/HWA Wagons


SM & M Car Wagons


YK Cattle Wagons







Breakdown Vans & Wagons


Beaudesert Goods  (Train 594)


Composite Van CV 286

B class Container Wagons


Western Bridges


New Station for Wyandra    (Weather board stations)


Dinning Cars


Wheels   (wheel wagons)


Dream Operations


SBC Cement Wagon (Queensland Railway Miniatures Kit)


QFX / QFC Platform and Container Wagon


Bulk Apples on QR


QGX Grain Wagons






Prototype Operations for a Small Layout

Fruit Bins


Train 632    (Pinkenba –Toowoomba)


Sydney Model Railway Exhibition


Mosquito Creek – September Update.

PJW 30700 Well Wagon


6 Up & 19 Down

(Toowoomba – Roma – Toowoomba ) Passenger Train


P / PJ / PH Platform Wagons


Train 275 (North Coast Parcels Trains)


Water Wagons


Paw Paw Loco (1500/1170 Class Locomotives)


What’s on our Trains?

PE Wagons

Kadee Coupling on Narrow Gauge Wagons


Mosquito Creek  (Bob Harding Layout)

Branch Goods

Train Spotting Wyandra


PCO/PCOP/ PCUY Container Wagons





MTW Wagons

2300 Class Diesel Electric Locomotives (Southern Rail)


Train 209 / 309 North Coast Goods Train

Paper Paper


OV Mobil Tank Wagon

Mutton Birds nesting season


WHE Gran Wagons

Hey Boss  (How not to load Containers)


Mini – Multies – Weathering Locos.


Night Shift   (Collection of Layout photos at night)


Weed Spray (Poison) Train




Train 6678  (Contracts Train Rocklea – Toowoomba)



Loads  (For HWO Wagons)


Sunshine BL Sitting Carriages

HWO Wagons


MG Sheep Vans

H /HJ Open Wagons





Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

Wako Station

8 Wheeled Timber frames Wagons


Static Grass

Wyandra Station




Looking Back ( Link to Gerry Hopkins MMR video in 2014)


Jumbo HJ Wagons

“U” Wagons


GM Fan Club

S Wagons


CC Camp Wagons

Maternal and Child Welfare Car No. 7

The model is a Three Foot Six model kit bashed as bit. I think the kit was a 1st class carriage and Car 7 was a 2nd class carriage, thus the windows are not correct. I was given the kit and was not sure how it would fit into the layout. A modelling mate (Ken) grew up in Winton and would often tell us about the Bubba Car coming to town. The carriage is now in his collection. 

Winton Mixed.

This carriage (452) was one of a number that provided government services to western towns across Queensland. Operated by Department of Health and Home Affairs, Maternal and Child Welfare Car No. 7 was based at Hughenden. The carriage was conveyed on goods trains to stations on the Mt Isa line and Winton. An article on the carriage can be found in the AMRA Qld club library, March 2004 Australian Sn Modeller. 

Car 7 at Prairie 1972.